Subject: FW: Forest of Dean Allocations Plan - waste water
infrastructure queries
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From: Williams, Dawn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 05 June 2015 15:12
To: Nigel Gibbons
Cc: Jennifer Jones
Subject: RE: Forest of Dean Allocations Plan - waste water
infrastructure queries
Hi Nigel,
Thank you for allowing us extra
time to complete the questionnaire below, please see our comments in red below
relating to question C & E.
Response to C):
The original IDP enquiry requested capacity assessments on five
separate neighbouring site allocations in the Nailsbridge area to the north
west of the town. At the time of the enquiry it was unclear whether all
of these sites would be allocated or just some of them but collectively they
could allocate up to around 250 dwellings. As these sites are in the same
location, and would affect the same part of the sewerage network, we would not
undertake sewer modelling assessments individually but to avoid the potential
of abortive expenditure sewer modelling is normally undertaken when we receive
details from developers relating to their proposed drainage connection points
and confirmation of flow rates. Should sewer modelling indicate than
sewer improvement work is required then we would plan any upgrading work to
coincide with occupation of the developments but capacity would be provided for
all allocated development not just one for a single site in isolation.
Response to F):
The IDP assessments we undertake are based on desktop assessment
which consider the size/location of the proposed development in relation to the
existing sewerage and known pinch points on the existing network which may
require further investigation work. Due to the number of these type of
enquiries we receive we do not have the resource to model every potential
development (or combination) and so the desktop assessments are intended to
flag where further assessments may be needed when a development comes
forward. At the time of these assessment we have no information about
where the developer intends to connect or and details on their on-site drainage
proposals. Consequently the level of detail we undertake for our initial
desktop assessments are limited but following a specific developer enquiry
seeking a new connection we will do a more detailed capacity assessment and
where necessary undertake sewer modelling work. Any capacity improvement
work would be planned to coincide with occupation of a development
Hope this helps.
From: Nigel Gibbons [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 22 May 2015 08:52
To: Williams, Dawn
Cc: Jennifer Jones
Subject: RE: Forest of Dean Allocations Plan - waste water
infrastructure queries
Thanks for your note, and yes we
can say that we will be able to give you more time, although we would like
replies as soon as possible, can we say two weeks?
Nigel.
From: Williams, Dawn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 21 May 2015 12:52
To: 'Clare, Ruth'
Cc: Nigel Gibbons; '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: Forest of Dean Allocations Plan - waste water
infrastructure queries
Hi Nigel,
In the absence of Ruth Clare,
please find enclosed our comments in red below for the Sewage Treatment
Capacity relating to the Forest of Dean Allocation Plan.
I appreciate that the deadline
date for this consultation has past, however I would appreciate an extension to
respond to the sewerage network query.
a)
With regard to Table
29 in the IDP, what is the latest situation regarding the Blakeney and Lydney
sewage treatment works? Do these works still have “reasonable spare capacity”?
Does “reasonable spare capacity” mean they can accommodate the growth outlined
in the Allocations Plan? (including consideration of how the flows that
previously went to Cinderford and Crump Meadow will now/in future impact upon
Blakeney). If it is anticipated that further capacity will be needed at these
works, are there any upgrade plans in the AMP to make these improvements, and
when would these be?
Lydney – We still
have reasonable spare capacity. Can’t guarantee that there is sufficient
capacity for everything listed in the IDP, but more can be provided as and when
required. We don’t anticipate a need to provide any extra capacity in AMP6.
Timing of any capacity increase in subsequent AMPs would be dependant upon pace
of the developments in the IDP.
Blakeney – we are
still in discussion with the EA about to possible closure of Cinderford
Crumpmeadow STW and transfer of flow to Blakeney. A final decision hasn’t been
made yet. Capacity will be available for the developments outlined (either at
Blakeney or Cinderford) as and when required.
b)
With regard to Table
29 in the IDP, what is the latest situation regarding the Longhope, Newent and
Broadoak sewage treatment works? Do these works still have “no spare capacity”
to accommodate the growth outlined in the Allocations Plan? Can you provide any
details about what upgrades/improvements will happen and when to accommodate
the growth (i.e. improvements plans within the AMP)?
Longhope –
sufficient capacity should be available for the 100 or so houses proposed
Newent – will be
subject to a quality improvement project in AMP6 to meet WFD requirements.
Capacity to cater for growth will be included in the design
Broadoak –
Sufficient capacity should be available for the 40 houses proposed
c)
With regard to the
sewerage network at Cinderford, Table 29 recommends that the various sites in
Cinderford should be hydraulically modelled in combination to ascertain the
impact on the downstream network. Who should undertake this modelling, and
when? Is this something that STW expect developers to do when they make
planning applications? Or is there another way that the in-combination effects
can be modelled at an earlier stage?
d)
With regard to
the development at Drybrook (development of 50 dwellings at Ingledean, High
Street), Table 29 does not list which sewage treatment works this development
would drain to. Can you confirm which works this will be? Is there capacity at
the works for the development?
Presume Cinderford
or Blakeney (see comments above ref possible closure)
e)
Table 29 (throughout
the sewerage network comments) refers to hydraulic modelling being needed. Can
you clarify what you mean by this (i.e. when will the modelling be undertaken
and by whom)?
In the mean time should you need
any further information please do not hesitate to contact me on the telephone
number below.
Many thanks
From: Clare, Ruth [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 02 April 2015 14:52
To: Williams, Dawn
Cc: Nigel Gibbons
Subject: Forest of Dean Allocations Plan - waste water infrastructure
queries
Hi Dawn
Hope you are well and things have calmed down a bit since I
spoke to you in February. When I was in touch then it was about the Cheltenham,
Tewkesbury and Gloucester Joint Core Strategy – I spoke to Phil Stephenson in
their planning team last week and he was going to get in touch to see how
you’re getting on with the questions I sent through on 25th Feb, so
hopefully you’ve heard from him.
I’m actually emailing now about the Forest of Dean District
as they are progressing their Site Allocations Plan. I met with Nigel Gibbons
about the Plan yesterday and we agreed I would send you a similar email asking
a few questions about the waste water infrastructure. It’s a similar situation
in that the Infrastructure Delivery Plan sets out information on sewerage and
sewage treatment work capacity, but we could do with a little more detail if
possible. I’ve set this out below, and hope it’s something you’ll be able
to advise on:
The February 2015 Infrastructure Delivery Plan (IDP),
available at: http://www.fdean.gov.uk/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=8260&tt=graphic
, details sewage treatment works and sewerage network capacity in Table 29. It
would be useful to know if there is any more detail that can be provided
regarding the network capacity issues and whether any known/planned upgrade
works will take place to accommodate the growth set out in the Allocations
Plan. It is also useful to know when such upgrades will occur as this will help
the Council to decide whether any of the development allocations need to be
phased for later stages of the Plan. Any general advice that can be given on
this would be helpful (and we note on page 125 of the IDP there are general
comments taken from the AMP), but it would also help if you could answer the
questions below:
f)
With regard to Table
29 in the IDP, what is the latest situation regarding the Blakeney and Lydney
sewage treatment works? Do these works still have “reasonable spare capacity”?
Does “reasonable spare capacity” mean they can accommodate the growth outlined
in the Allocations Plan? (including consideration of how the flows that
previously went to Cinderford and Crump Meadow will now/in future impact upon
Blakeney). If it is anticipated that further capacity will be needed at these
works, are there any upgrade plans in the AMP to make these improvements, and
when would these be?
g)
With regard to Table
29 in the IDP, what is the latest situation regarding the Longhope, Newent and
Broadoak sewage treatment works? Do these works still have “no spare capacity”
to accommodate the growth outlined in the Allocations Plan? Can you provide any
details about what upgrades/improvements will happen and when to accommodate
the growth (i.e. improvements plans within the AMP)?
h)
With regard to the
sewerage network at Cinderford, Table 29 recommends that the various sites in
Cinderford should be hydraulically modelled in combination to ascertain the
impact on the downstream network. Who should undertake this modelling, and
when? Is this something that STW expect developers to do when they make
planning applications? Or is there another way that the in-combination effects
can be modelled at an earlier stage?
i)
With regard to
the development at Drybrook (development of 50 dwellings at Ingledean, High
Street), Table 29 does not list which sewage treatment works this development
would drain to. Can you confirm which works this will be? Is there capacity at
the works for the development?
j)
Table 29 (throughout
the sewerage network comments) refers to hydraulic modelling being needed. Can
you clarify what you mean by this (i.e. when will the modelling be undertaken
and by whom)?
If you’re able to respond to this over the next few weeks it
would be really helpful. My last day in the office before maternity leave is 17th
April, so please reply to Nigel directly, and a contact email for my team after
17th is [email protected]
I hope the above is OK, but please don’t hesitate to contact
me or Nigel f there are any queries.
Many thanks,
Ruth.
Ms Ruth Clare MRTPI, AIEMA.
Planning Specialist
Sustainable Places
Environment Agency - Shropshire,
Herefordshire, Worcestershire and Gloucestershire - Riversmeet House, Newtown
Industrial Estate, Northway Lane, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, GL20 8JG
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